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Gilthanas, I don't know exactly what to say, and tbh this isn't exactly easy. But I think I should say something,
especially as 2 friends, umph. On the one hand there's you, on the other hand there's Nuadormrac, who I met up with
sometime latter, and the stink of it is, I enjoyed his company as much as I enjoyed yours; and yet in the end, what I saw,
is what happened with, or should I say what my gut tells me, happened with you. I didn't want to see the same thing all
over again... You, I don't even know where you are, and yet I have my gut sense what my intuition tells me. And if it's
correct, then what might have happened on a final encounter between you and me? might not even have been real, instead it
would have been a case of mistaken identity, of the worst possible kind. There's the time I know we interacted, and
there's another time in retrospect I'm left wondering, which if it was you, I did not know, and waited for you to come back
even after. As for Nuad, I don't even know how to approach him at this point, and don't think it's even possible unless
he's willing to approach first. I wanted to speak to him, when from all indication he was quiting the game for good;
precisely because I saw the possibility for the same sort of thing to happen all over again, but this time with him.
Blows, doesn't it.
And yet, in all of this, I just don't know. Outside my gut sense, and only in hindsight, there's no real way to know.
What I will say, is what I have a bad feeling what might have happened with you, I never wanted to happen with Nuad, and
that is the one and only reason I wanted to speak with him before, well... In any case, as far as things go here, I never
wanted, whatever the hell is up. Nor had I ever really wanted to have to speak as publically as this, but I know of no
other way to say, what sort of needs to be said. If there was any possibility to speak with you privately and directly, I
would have availed myself of it, and posted nothing. I know of no such means, which is even humanly possible... I'll
mention what I knew, when I knew it, leaving my gut sense out of it, until I began to suspect as such.
In the end (back in January 2007), I logged in one day, you were on early, and invited to party the second I came on. We
played for like 12 hours (which wasn't usual for you, as normally you were only on a few hours at a time, and not every
day, I guess since having started a new job). tbh, we had some of the best times up through then, most people wouldn't
even be willing to do the sort of stuff we did together at times, many people just want things way too easy, they want a
rush, what have you, but to actually pull off some of the stuff we did, they'd likely die, then rage, complain to Bliz to
nerf everything, what have you... Which also added up to how things got so ridiculously easy leading up through Wraith, as
many longer time players quite because for them it got too easy to remain fun anymore... I think many just like things
boring, I on the other hand can grow weary of that sort of thing, eventually. And tbh, Anyhow, it was late in the day, you
asked about going to watch a TV show you'd been watching, of course I didn't mind. But there's one thing here, I honestly
believed I'd see you again, sometime latter. In Nuad's case, I believed the same until, well... I really wish you were
around tbh, if at the very least to help understand some of what has transpired, but the honest truth is that if what my
gut tells me, is what had happened, then in the end you had become so incomprehensible, I'm not sure if I'd be able to make
sense of it all, in a million years. Anyhow, you came back on, after an hour, and we played a bit longer, then you were
off for a couple days. I thought nothing at the time, knew you were busy, and honestly believed that you'd be back. In
retrospect, I guess you knew you were going to be gone for awhile, and wanted to get together ahead of time, hence that
day, but then, I never suspected as such, then.
It was, you mentioned you were busy, could only be on an hour, but you'd have longer the following day, and then, you
basically told me you'd have to go for awhile, though it wasn't until the following day that you mentioned a trip you were
about to take. The following day, your brother's car broke down, you asked if I minded if you pick him up, and said it
wouldn't be until the following week you were going on a trip, so we could do something that weekend. But I never saw you,
until about 3 weeks latter. Even then, I never suspected the turn of events that seems to have occured.
Coming back, you mentioned getting snowed in, you were sick of the snow, I gather were a week late returning to work
because of it, and would need to do laundry or you'd have no clothes for work the following day, so would have to go in an
hour. Once again, I was happy to see you, enjoyed doing stuff with you, and as I said before, honestly believed I'd see
you latter, you even said as such, pretty much, telling me "see you tommarrow"... But, I don't know, in the end, you kept
saying good night, wasn't logging, and it's almost as if either you didn't want to get off, but knew you had to, or as if
you wanted to say something, but couldn't summon the words. And so you kept saying good night, then stood there silent for
a long time after, then same thing, etc. The only other thing you told me, is that you'd be on tomarrow. I figuring I'd
see you again was like "cya", not thinking anything of it. The only thing is, the thought did cross my mind for whatever
reason, I can't even guess why; to tell you that I don't know who your alts are. It seemed rather random, even though I
did mention a guy I was playing in your absense, over the previous hour), and just brushed it aside and thought nothing of
it. It didn't seem important, and only in retrospect might saying something, have averted what my gut tells me had
happened. Perhaps it was intuition on my own part, that prompted me, but please understand that if such was the case, it
was nothing I was conscious of... Then, it seemed random and unimportant, I had every reason to believe we'd see each
other the following day, so brushed it aside. I wish (now) I hadn't, but there you go. Only in hind sight could I
possibly have known that if I would have mentioned this, as it crossed my mind, that perhaps, just maybe, you wouldn't have
been left with the belief that I'd recognize you on some guy, I certainly had no awareness of, at the time. The truth is
Gilthanas, maybe, at some level of consciousness, I MIGHT have had some sense of something. I really can't make heads of
tails why I thought to tell you that, then and there. But whatever the case might have been, I was never, if I had been, I
was not in the least bit conscious of it. If I sensed something, which promted me to say something then and there, in my
outer mind, I had no awareness of it, whatsoever.
The following day, I never saw you. Days went into weeks, and from what I knew, weeks into months. And the whole time I
waited for you. The above, is the last time I had ever run into you, that I can be certain of. Anything after, is more a
hunch, then anything I can demonstrate, on a rational basis, one way or the other. You did however, ask the wrong question
that night. That night you asked why I was playing a guy on a different realm when you were on the realm we were both on.
What you should have asked is why I was playing elsewhere WHEN YOU WERE GONE. In large part, I remember all too well how
in vanilla, there were zones you did I hadn't, and zones I did you hadn't. Here we were wanting to get together together
and do something, and our quest logs were so out of sync with each other's, we couldn't find something we could both do
together, without having to thottbot everything and try to figure out who needed to do what, to pick up where the other
left off, so we could find something we could do together. We kept having to spend time thottboting all the respective
quest chains and what not, just so we could find something we could do together, when no doubt we were both rather wishing
we could just do something. But collectively, we had done most everything, and there wasn't much left.. It's the reason I
rolled the warrior, so I'd have something to do, when you were off, without well running out of stuff we could do together
(due to playing through content on my main). It's the same reason you and I decided not to go through the dark portal
before we both could, together. And it's the reason I was on a different guy (and at times even on a different realm),
largely to pass the time by, while leaving stuff we could do, without us having to try to web search all the quest lines
again, so we could coordinate our logs enough to be able to find something, one or the other of us hadn't already done...
I wasn't there because your guy was on the same realm as me; I was there because with a new expansion, and once again stuff
we could do (as we had wanted previously), I didn't want to play everything through, before we could do the stuff together
;) I was mucking with a guy on another realm precisely because you WERE NOT AROUND those few weeks. I did check back time
to time though. In any case, and with you back the one day, but not seeing you since, I waited for you to come back; and
as the days turned into weeks, and even months, I went from finding stuff to do on other guys, to more or less waiting for
you to come back. We're talking many weeks by now... By this point, I pretty much sat around the inn in Honor Hold the
whole time, and did really nothing at all. I was waiting for you ;)
I hit 64 within less then a week or so of the expansion comming out, when we were both knocking the stuff up, and then I
sat there until April. Finally our guild got on my case about it, told me to level already, we needed people to be ready
for kara, and some flat out said "just level already, if Gilthanas hasn't come back yet, he's quit the game and isn't
comming back". I finally did, and THE DAY, I hit 70, the very instant I showed up in Azeroth to begin the kara attunement,
it was like I had a whole bunch of new "best friends" all ready to beg for rushes and stuff. People I never heard from
before with "can you kill my wolves for me, it's too hard, I need a 70 to kill everything for me...", every fricken 30
seconds, for days every time I logged in. I don't know, I never had those sorts of problems with people at the 60 cap, on
either of my prior 60s. It became relentless and never ending, and from more then just a few. Hell, those who beg for
gold constantly, aren't as bad as that. No those people beg for one's time, and expect one to level their character for
them, so they don't have to lift a finger to do anything at all. OMFG, it was ridiculous... I had people fearing and
doting elite mobs when I was soloing (on another realm) some quest, and then getting mad at me for not "saving them" when
they died. Then it'd be like "you wanted me to die, how dare you not save me", as I kept moving to another area, to get
away from what he was doing. I was like "nah, I'm just trying to do a quest here", and his reply "you see, you wanted me
to die because I was trying to make it so you can't get any mobs. How dare you" wtf? That wasn't even the worst of it,
and in your absense, it was relentless and never ending. Far worse then what I saw prior to the expansion, far worse then
what I saw in the 10 years prior that I had gamed online, even in other MMOs like Everquest. I was shocked, tbh.... Hell
I'd played this game for over half a year back then, without any of this, back in I guess you could say the good old
days.... And then to all that, came all the gold sellers, the spam bots, and spam bots that PST'd every fricken 15
seconds, under a trillion different names, all meant to get around any form of ignore.... Spam sentry worked on that,
until the decision was made to not allow addons to do batch reporting of spam.... Of course all of that, including their
answer to bliz's patch changes on restricting gold sellers, got an immediate response (only worked 6 hours before the
farmers found a work around), they'd insta invite from level 1s, and if you accepted start flooding you in party chat with
gold selling spam. Sites like Peons4hire, and the like were springing up to spam people's chat boxes like crazy. In the
time since I had last saw you (at least that I know of and can be certain about), things had gone to the crapper in that
regard, in a big way...
Even leveled, I was hoping, and waiting to see you again, and finally the guild master clearing out long time AFK's got to
your name. He PST'd me, and told me that he'd have to kick you for being off a long time. He avoided it the prior month,
because he knew we were friends, but longtime AFKs are supposed to be removed. I told him I understood, and do as he must,
and then he kicked you. The weekend went by, another friend asked if you ever came back. And IT WAS AT THAT POINT, I
started to get a bad gut sense, about it all. I told him everything, what happened in March from what some people were
doing, how I re-logged to get away from it, a strange encounter I still couldn't/can't make sense of, what was going on,
who I thought it was, and then asked "what if it was Gilthanas, that last time, and I simply mistook him for someone else?
I never could make sense of that encounter, but felt increasingly uncomfortable as it all progressed, especially after all
that happened just before, and the nonsense for which I was relogging, to try to get away from..." Now before logging,
someone was mounted, and AFK, like at the maximum distance one could see on the screen, facing a different direction
entirely. I went after Ursius actually (which was an elite then), a bit after waiting to see if he would do anything, nope
he went AFK, and when this elite was 50% dead, he rode up on his mount, screaming and cursing that I "stole his mob", umm
he wasn't even near it and was afk for a bit, and only after I had the thing largely killed, did he come back, approached
me, and just flew off the handle that anyone should have started killing it while he was away. I tollerated his mouth for
about a half hour, when I finally told him "ok, that's enough. You can go f- off now". He said far more, and with a hell
of a lot more foul language then that, for an entire half hour, but replied with "oh you told me to go f- off now, that's a
banneable offense. I'm going to report you. I just love getting people in trouble" and returned to cursing and screaming
as he had been doing all along.
Not long after, and with this person still running their mouth, of course this was all in PSTs, I got a communication from
a GM that a complaint was registered, and they would investigate, but I never heard anything else of it from them. This
other individual was still screaming their head off... Whatever happened, bliz chose to take no action at least wrt me,
though and no doubt if they investigated the chat logs, all this other person had been saying before and after would also
have been discovered by them... But at that point, I had had it, was quite fed up, and just wanted to get away. I wasn't
familiar with the term griefing at the time, then, but this is exactly what this person was doing to me, and now getting a
GM when they were griefing me, because I finally said something in response... I relogged to get away from it all, and
that's when, I don't know it didn't make sense, but I expected more of the same, and didn't want to deal with too much
more, then. I had already had it after just over a half hour of that crap... But I asked this other fiend, "what if who I
ran into after relogging was Gilthanas on some character I'm not even aware of, and it wasn't what I thought it was?" That
for me was the worst. He said "well if Gilthanas never told you it was him, it wouldn't have been your fault", it didn't
make me feel any better in the least. :o :( You know also what bothered me, wrt hearing the bit from bliz, after that
person did all that (aside from his griefing, but at that time I wasn't even familiar with the term griefing, untl much
latter); it wasn't whether or not Bliz might do something, even with this person having said and done all that. It was
that if they would, it would mean we couldn't meet up again, because then it would be I who wouldn't have been able to get
on a character you would be familiar with. Of course, they never had, and beyond that original communication from them, I
never heard anything about it, after. Even after I got back from dinner, I still waited for you, having at that time,
never thought you might have been, one and the same. I took whoever I ran into after relogging to get away from the above
mentioned encounter, as someone else; having neither believed nor even imagined it could have been you who showed up after
I had endured all of that, from whoever else, on a char that for me was completely unrecognized. It was only after you
were gone for months, having never relogged (as the guild master also noted when they PSTed me), that it hit me, this might
well have been what happened, and why I had not seen you again.
What happened from there, is it was getting late, and I was getting quite tired. My legs were also beginning to bother me.
tbh, a few years prior I had ended up with a blood clot in my lower right leg, which I had to go to the hospital and was
treated for. A few times since (not so much in recent years), it had swollen up, and I went to the hospital again first
time it happened, they looked and determined it was not another clot, but because of the first one the valves in the vein
wasn't left undamaged, so there could some reocurrances such as this. It's for the most part faded away over the years,
but it felt like my leg was about to experience that once again. I went into my bedroom, logged down, and figured I would
shoot an in game mail off to you, asking you about this, explaining what was going on then, who I thought I was dealing
with after relogging, and then going to ask you if this had been you or not, as I got a gut sense I should do, then...
A few hour latter, and waking up, I can't explain it really, but I had what I can't reeally describe other then as a
certain sense of inner knowing, for lack of a better term, that it was you, and yet for the life of me I couldn't
understand how. It was like "how could that be, if he rolled a character with his schedule, he never could have leveled
something that fast. Doesn't make sense", but my gut sense was matter of factly, it was, well upon waking up. I really
can't explain it, anymore then that. I logged in, to ask, as I was about to do before going to sleep, and your character
was gone, it was then too late. Mystified how it could be, and having lost my appetite then, it hit me many days latter.
I remembered you had a character, which looked similar, which you showed me once, but only once and for all of a minute or
so.
It was the night after we met up, we did some stuff for a few hours, then you asked me if you could help someone with
something, that you had promised them. For whatever reason, I don't know why, you relogged. You said "this is another one
of my characters, but I don't really play him anymore". Then you went off, did whatever, we PST a bit over the next couple
minutes, then you said good night, logged, and I never saw it again. Gilthanas, I thoroughly forgot the thing ever even
existed, and if it was one and the same would not have recognized it. Even then, and to this day, I do not remember the
name, and doubt I ever will. We, never did anything together, while you were on it, and at the time you told me you don't
play him anymore. At the time, my friends list was chock full because another friend kept rolling alts (I had mentioned as
such to you in the days to come), and as one couldn't add accounts, I was actually concerned about my friends list getting
full, having no idea what the limit on it was. I knew in Diablo II, one coudln't add more then 25 names, and I was already
up to like 20 or so... I didn't add it, because of that, and because I never expected to see an unplayed char again...
Understand, we had just met up the night before then. I was actually aware of you when you joined the guild the month
before, but you were 42, I was 30, we were out of level range, and never really spoke until there was stuff we could
actually do together, tbh. I had fun with you the night before then, looked forward to meeting up with you again; but AT
THAT TIME, we had not yet become the friends we were to then become. We became friends over time, and the night you logged
onto that thing, was before all of that had come to pass. I did not remember the thing, to this day can't even recollect a
name, and in the 5 months had so thoroughly forgotten about it, I didn't even know such a char existed, and so took it as a
completely seperate individual, who I saw/understood in the context of what was going on then. If my gut is right, and
this is what happened, I mistook you, for this other person or someone like them, who I relogged trying to get away from.
That, more then having been griefed, is perhaps the worst part of it all...
The worst part isn't simply that you're gone, it's how it might have happened, and whether you might have been left
believing that I hated you, and wanted you to go away (in which case you'd be thinking you're fulfilling my wishes in all
of this), after all that had been said, and all we had done together. That is the worst, as is the fact, that if such
occured, I can't even set the record straight on that. Sadly, the only other char I knew of which you had, was a lock you
created by the name of Ryald, as you created it when I created my shammy so we could level them together. Other then
appearing on a char I would recognize, the only real way I could know if someone was you or not, would be if you would tell
me that it is you. Sorry, but I'm not omniscient, and can't just guess. Even if my gut sense was correct in this, I can't
explain it, and would not be conscious enough of it, that I could just make it work for me on a whim... Unless something
is communicated, how could I know, on something I had never seen before? But that, was the worst of it all...
As far as Nuadormrac would be concerned, it would be infinitely more simple, because there wasn't such a turn of
events/possible turn of events? I had as much fun with him, as I had with you, he was as pleasant to be around and do
something with, as you had been. But when he told me he was quiting the game, I took it at face value and never questioned
the sincerity of what he was saying. I figured he was done with it, and would never be back. But I also had a gut sense,
that I would see him, at some time, in the future. What I could see, is what my gut suggests had happened with you, and I
didn't want to see this happen with him also. The idea of meeting up, never recognizing each other, and having things go
as sour as what I described above. Not again :eek: I wanted to speak with him, to prevent such a thing from happening, if
that is what could occur sometime latter. It was bad enough, if you Gilthanas, and I might have met up as such, without
having ever known it was you, if things had in fact gone that way. I didn't want it to go down as such with him as well.
And that is why I wanted to speak with him, before such could come to pass. But Gilthanas, if this is what had happened
with you, you had me rather confused tbh. I can't make sense of it myself. I'm not sure how to approach someone, with something, like this :o
Hey, so I really hope sometime soon you will see this. :) I don't know if you remember me, but it's Emma, the person you use to play WOW with. For the longest time I've been trying to find you. I know it seems crazy.. I think my main character was Melissastar. I really hope you see this and remember me.
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idk how to log back into my old acc for this character can someone help me get back. its character back? It's been 4-3 years since i left my account and now i dont know how to claim my SkÜcrÜsher back can you please help?
I'm looking for former Bleak students, Such as Vexanna and her RL husband. Just attempting to reconnect with them. My characters name was Nagoth. I was Vex's "apprentice". If you're on here, send me a msg! :)
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