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Re: Too few updates?

1974ER — Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:12 pm

Author: 1974ER

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:12 pm

Hehe, well at that rate, you are only about 3,5 evenings away... So, it might take a few more days, but you will get there... Have a nice weekend as it will be Friday in a few hours...

Re: Too few updates?

Balgair — Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:07 pm

Author: Balgair

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:07 pm

I'd hope so but depends on how much I can play, I'm away every weekend this month I think, and that cuts a fair bit of potential censusing time out When I get a good evening's censusing in I'll get 10k+ updates, problem is finding that time!

May well have been you then, the day I saw that character was a day when it was on 0 updates, hence my having just created a character there also

Re: Too few updates?

gmmmpresser — Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:06 pm

Author: gmmmpresser

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:06 pm

Spot the stationary Census+ taker

Re: Too few updates?

1974ER — Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:48 pm

Author: 1974ER

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:48 pm

At your current monthly average rate per day... you should hit the 6M around 17-18th... that is, fairly soon.

I don't have a "permanent" alt on Hellfire, but... that might very well have been me, I think I did run a census there as well recently...

Re: Too few updates?

Balgair — Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:04 pm

Author: Balgair

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:04 pm

Hehe very true, my problem is either playing the game on my main server, or not remembering to set censuses running in the background - I do have one running atm though Would like to reach that 6M mark soon

Btw, I remember you saying how you usually make your character names - do you happen to have a "Cenh" on Hellfire horde? I was logged in next to that character the other day,forget which race it was but orc or troll (was in Durotar), and wondered if it might be your character censusing since it was standing there not moving, like mine

Re: Too few updates?

1974ER — Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:59 pm

Author: 1974ER

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:59 pm

Well, it did require a lot of time.... but the good thing about census is that it is very self-sufficient. I can get a lot of things done and have census run on the background... Just switching realms and factions every now and then... as you are very well aware, running a census on a high population faction can easily take 25+ minutes during peak times. In that time one can accomplish quite a few things. In fact there is a census running on the background as I type these words here...

Re: Too few updates?

Balgair — Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:25 pm

Author: Balgair

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:25 pm

That's insanely good for one year, my stats are over 5 years and not as good (I'm slightly ahead on new characters but a fair bit behind on updates) - must take a heck of a lot of dedication to do so much in just one year!

Re: Too few updates?

1974ER — Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:33 am

Author: 1974ER

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:33 am

Well, nobody else has posted, but since I took a lot longer break in writing here than I originally intended, I am making a new post instead of editing the old one.

One year has passed from my first ever submission here and the results look like this:

980,375 new ones (3rd on the all time top 10)
6,214,080 updates (1st on the all time top 10)
1 unprocessed submission

To be honest... When I started, I did not even dream of being this high on lists. In short, I am pretty happy with those figures.

Re: Too few updates?

1974ER — Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:09 am

Author: 1974ER

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:09 am

I have only one machine and only one account... and censusing heavy days leave less time for play.. but for example last Sunday, I did about 40 quests (mostly the day of the dead ones, but a few others as well) total over quite a few of my characters and still got about 12500 updates for the whole day, if I counted correctly

On the other hand... I don't NEED to get 17600 updates (or even more) every day... Today I have been enjoying doing some BGs and achievements. My total updates will not grow too much today, but I don't really care. Being the current number 1 on top 10 updates is nice, but if Kerebo, Balgair or someone else passes me by, fine.

I see WCR as a huge co-operative effort. When the PvP realms did not yet allow characters on both sides, it was very nice to know that someone else does run an occasional census on Defias Brotherhood's Horde side as well as Scarshield Legion's Alliance side, where I did not and do not play. It is also why I often try hunt down the 0s... So that those who need information would have at least something, not just empty graphs. And yes, 1 census per month is not much... but it is better than nothing... besides, it would be extremely tricky (though theoretically possible) for me to run a bi-monthly census on each and every running EU server on both sides (1160 censuses per month). Luckily I don't have to...

Also, those 24 Censuses (can't bothered to recount again) provided me with about 19k characters seen, not 19k updates. Also, how long a census lasts is highly dependtant not only on server population, but also time of day... Censusing Silvermoon Horde at any time of day is not likely to take more than about 1 minute 10 s including login and logout. Running a census on say... Argent Dawn Alliance late Friday or Saturday evening might take 25+ minutes. Early mornings before work... I can cover about 20 factions in about an hour, but that will only net me about 500 to 1000 updates or so... Covering a similar number of factions late afternoon or evening... might take 4 to 6 hours, but net me with 8000+ updates.

Taking a break for now... might edit... or make a new post, if someone posts in between...

Re: Too few updates?

FuxieDK — Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:27 am

Author: FuxieDK

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:27 am

So... For 19K updates, you do 24x Census (if I can count)..

Do you even have time to play? A Census typically takes 5-15 minutes, but when you have to re-log for each Census, it doesn't leave much time for anything..

Or do you Census on a seperate machine where you make a new trail-key every 10 days?

Re: Too few updates?

Balgair — Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:47 pm

Author: Balgair

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:47 pm

Female here so the listing of both genders is correct And yeah it's the wide spread of servers that does it the most, particularly picking up the ones off the most wanted list, for a long time I was the only one in Europe doing mass censusing so I had my pick of low-update servers and got loads.

Re: Too few updates?

1974ER — Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:13 pm

Author: 1974ER

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:13 pm

I am male, though I feel a bit too old to be called a guy, which translates into something meaning someone about 12 to 21 or so in my native language... As for what it takes... mostly lots and lots of time... And, as an important note, large enough spread of servers. Someone censusing just 1 or 2 will need years to reach even 1M updates.

Re: Too few updates?

gmmmpresser — Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:19 pm

Author: gmmmpresser

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:19 pm

I to have been around for a while, and have got a few 'hits' on the board. While not as many as the above two guys/gals (?), it just takes a bit of dedication and hard work.

Re: Too few updates?

Balgair — Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:29 am

Author: Balgair

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:29 am

1974ER wrote:

I'll try to tackle that question, since it seems mostly directed at me... Kerebo does not seem to be very active on forums and Balgair, as far as I know, has been fairly busy IRL. Also, they have been members longer than I have.

Yep, my nearly 6M updates is over 5 years so a little less concentrated effort, although I did get 800k in one month once. However of late I'm pretty busy in RL and also playing the game on my main server quite a bit so just don't get half the censuses done that I once did - have to admit I find your 6M in a year quite incredible

Re: Too few updates?

1974ER — Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:19 am

Author: 1974ER

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:19 am

Just got back home... since you already posted, I will leave the previous as was, and write this instead of an edit.

No, seems I made a small logic error, I should have spoken of 3 submissions, not 3 censuses. And no, actually having 10-20k users online is impossible. I think Blizzard's hard cap is between 3000 and 4500 per faction, slightly depending on server hardware capabilities.

08:20:05 to 12:04:33 (or 16:20:05 to 20:04:33 my local time) was long enough to see 19636 characters yesterday, so it is hardly forever. Now to the main point: That single entry consisted, if my memory serves me right of: 1 French realm, Alliance side; 1 Spanish realm, both sides, 5 German realms, 2 of which were covered for both sides, the remaining 3 one-sided and... 10 English realms, 4 of which got coverage for both sides, the remaining 6 one-sided. Now, you might understand, why I was speaking of "a critical hit".

Counting overall (now including the 2 minor entries, which went in as Sunday night WCR time wise), I saw about 47000 characters (theoretically, in reality the number is much lower, since I am certain due to my censusing patterns that some characters were seen 5 times (and no, this does not mean updated 5 times, just that I saw them 5 times)) and racked about 2900 new ones and about 17600 updates.

Now back to reaching 6M updates... if we took 350 copies of yesterday (allowing for about 2 weeks worth of "days offline" in a year...) we would get... counts... 350 x 2900 = 1015000 new ones and 350 x 17600 = 6160000 updates.

As of right now, my figures stand 970575 new ones and 6153367 updates, with one submission not processed yet. In short, I am "way behind" on new ones and will probably break the theoretic number on updates very late today or tomorrow, depending on how certain real life factors affect things.