Monk by any other Language

[bringoutyourdead]

Are these google tranlations valid for the Monk class in MoP?
for frFR = "Moine"
deDE = "Mönch"
esES = "Monje"

and for koKR = "수도사"

for ptBR = "Monge"
for itIT = "Monaco"

for esperanto = "Monaĥo"
for Yiddish = "מאָנק"
for Klingon = "'eDjen"

oh wait.. never mind .. forget those last three translations!

[FuxieDK]

I think Korean doesn't matter, as CP only suports latin letters..
Else, we'd also need 2x Chinese and Russian..
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[FuxieDK]

PS.. Gief Klingon localization in WoW
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[1974ER]

Some of the commentary is pretty funny... but on slightly more serious note, those pieces of info aren't enough. Most language don't really cover the concept of female monk... as in, females get called nuns and such, not monks. The WoW class doesn't separate by gender in English, but some of the other languages might... and how that is implemented, remains to be seen.

It's entirely possible that some languages get class names that are not an alteration of the male class, but an entirely different word. If there ever was a Finnish translation of WoW, the class would most likely have names "munkki" and "nunna" depending on character gender. "Munk(k)itar" or something similar would both look and sound weird to a native speaker.

Those who have the inscription skills... aren't inscripters, inscriptionists, inscriptioneers or something else in that vein, either. And, at least to my knowledge, female scribe isn't turned into scribess or something such, either. Similarly, though I on occasion see such names, there aren't any blacksmithers, alchemistionists, tailorers or herbaneers, either.

In German, king and queen are "König" and "Königin", but I don't think the queen of say, Great Britain, would be very amused if someone called her "your royal king(n)ess" or announced her as "her majesty, the king(n)ess of Great Britain" or even worse "her majesty, the kinky of Great Britain".

It isn't a big thing for me, but it will be integral for the addon... Remains to be seen whether we get something along the lines of "Moina", "Mönchin", "Monja", "Monga" and "Monaca" or something else entirely.

[bringoutyourdead]

Funny commentary -- check
on topic discussion -- check
provoking thought about needs and possible changes -- check
New topic working as desired -- check

I do hope that players using language packs would provide corrections and additions as needed with grammatical gender languages. (Something that the English language mostly ignores.)

As far as the Korean, I only included that because Rollie still has it in his Localization.lua file.

Considering the major problems of trying to merge into one database and/or one site multiple languages with vastly different character sets, I don't expect Rollie to ever really support the non-latin character set languages.

Maybe someday Rollie will get an alliance offer that he could accept from Russian, Chinese, Korean programmers and/or website owners to run their version of warcraftrealms in these languages and merge/share the statistics data between all of versions. (But I wouldn't hold my breath on that... it isn't like this website is a source of income for Rollie, he has sunk a lot of time, effort and money into it and it is his baby.. )

[FuxieDK]

I installed all language packs on my beta.. Race/class can be seen on character create screen..

Italian (new language): Masc/Fem
Paladin: Paladino/Paladina
Warlock: Stregone/Strega
Rogue: Ladro/Ladra
Druid: Druido/Druida
Shaman: Sciamano/Sciamana
Monk: Monaco/Monaca
Mage: Mago/Maga
Warrior: Guerriero/Guerriera
Death Knight: Cavaliere della Morte/Cavaliere della Morte
Hunter: Cacciatore/Cacciatrice
Priest: Sacerdote/Sacerdotessa

Alliance: Alleanza
Human: Umano/Umana
Dwarf: Nano/Nana
Night Elf: Elfo della Notte/Elfa della Notte
Gnome: Gnomo/Gnoma
Draenei: Draenei/Draenei
Worgen: Worgen/Worgen

Horde: Orda
Orc: Orco/Orchessa
Undead: Non Morto/Non Morta
Tauren: Tauren/Tauren
Troll: Troll/Troll
Blood Elf: Elfo della sangue/elfa della Sangue
Goblin: Goblin/Goblin

Pandaren: Pandaren/Pandaren
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Doing census mainly on Draenor; Raluf - Nimsay - Lusmo - Quixx - Sosyan - Garthog - Trubin - Zalistra - Zesmi and Djaang

[FuxieDK]

German: Masc/Fem
Paladin: Paladin/Paladin
Warlock: Hexenmeister/Hexenmeisterin
Rogue: Schurke/Schurkin
Druid: Druide/Druidin
Shaman: Schamane/Schamanin
Monk: Mönch/Mönch
Mage: Magier/Magierin
Warrior: Krieger/Kriegerin
Death Knight: Todesritter/Todesritter
Hunter: Jäger/Jägerin
Priest: Priester/Priesterin

Alliance: Allianz
Human: Mensch/Mensch
Dwarf: Zwerg/Zwerg
Night Elf: Nachtelf/Nachtelfe
Gnome: Gnom/Gnom
Draenei: Draenei/Draenei
Worgen: Worgen/Worgen

Horde: Horde
Orc: Orc/Orc
Undead: Untoter/Untote
Tauren: Tauren/Tauren
Troll: Troll/Troll
Blood Elf: Blutelf/Blutelfe
Goblin: Goblin/Goblin

Pandaren: Pandaren/Pandaren

EDIT: Corrected Rogue spelling
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Doing census mainly on Draenor; Raluf - Nimsay - Lusmo - Quixx - Sosyan - Garthog - Trubin - Zalistra - Zesmi and Djaang

[FuxieDK]

Spanish: Masc/Fem
Paladin: Paladín/Paladín
Warlock: Brujo/Bruja
Rogue: Pícaro/Pícara
Druid: Druida/Druida
Shaman: Chamán/Chamán
Monk: Monje/Monje
Mage: Mago/Maga
Warrior: Guerrero/Guerrera
Death Knight: Caballero de la Muerte/Caballero de la Muerte
Hunter: Cazador/Cazadora
Priest: Sacerdote/Sacerdotisa

Alliance: Alianza
Human: Humano/Humana
Dwarf: Enano/Enana
Night Elf: Elfo de la noche/Elfa de la Noche
Gnome: Gnomo/Gnoma
Draenei: Draenei/Draenei
Worgen: Huargen/Huargen

Horde: Horda
Orc: Orco/Orco
Undead: No-muerto/No-muerta
Tauren: Tauren/Tauren
Troll: Trol/Trol
Blood Elf: Elfo de sangre/Elfa de sangre
Goblin: Goblin/Goblin

Pandaren: Pandaren/Pandaren
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Doing census mainly on Draenor; Raluf - Nimsay - Lusmo - Quixx - Sosyan - Garthog - Trubin - Zalistra - Zesmi and Djaang

[FuxieDK]

French: Masc/Fem
Paladin: Paladin/Paladin
Warlock: Démoniste/Démoniste
Rogue: Voleur/Voleuse
Druid: Druide/Druidesse
Shaman: Chaman/Chamane
Monk: Moine/Moniale
Mage: Mage/Mage
Warrior: Guerrier/Guerrière
Death Knight: Chevalier de la Mort/Chevalier de la Mort
Hunter: Chasseur/Chasseresse
Priest: Prêtre/Prêtresse

Alliance: Alliance
Human: Humain/Humaine
Dwarf: Nain/Naine
Night Elf: Elfe de la nuit/Elfe de la nuit
Gnome: Gnome/Gnome
Draenei: Draeneï/Draeneï
Worgen: Worgen/Worgen

Horde: Horde
Orc: Orc/Orque
Undead: Mort-vivant/Morte-vivante
Tauren: Tauren/Taurène
Troll: Troll/Trollesse
Blood Elf: Elfe de sang/Elfe de sang
Goblin: Gobelin/Gobeline

Pandaren: Pandaren/Pandarène
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Doing census mainly on Draenor; Raluf - Nimsay - Lusmo - Quixx - Sosyan - Garthog - Trubin - Zalistra - Zesmi and Djaang

[FuxieDK]

Portuguese - Brazil (new language): Masc/Fem
Paladin: Paladino/Paladina
Warlock: Bruxo/Bruxa
Rogue: Ladino/Ladina
Druid: Druida/Druidesa
Shaman: Xamã/Xamã
Monk: Monge/Monja
Mage: Mago/Maga
Warrior: Guerreiro/Guerreira
Death Knight: Cavaleiro da Morte/Cavaleira da Morte
Hunter: Caçador/Caçadora
Priest: Sacerdote/Sacerdotisa

Alliance: Aliança
Human: Humano/Humana
Dwarf: Anão/Anã
Night Elf: Elfo Noturno/Elfa Noturna
Gnome: Gnomo/Gnomida
Draenei: Draenei/Draenaia
Worgen: Worgen/Worgenin

Horde: Horda
Orc: Orc/Orquisa
Undead: Morto-vivo/Morta-viva
Tauren: Tauren/Taurena
Troll: Troll/Trolesa
Blood Elf: Elfo Sangrento/Elfa Sangrenta
Goblin: Goblin/Goblina

Pandaren: Pandaren/Pandarena
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Doing census mainly on Draenor; Raluf - Nimsay - Lusmo - Quixx - Sosyan - Garthog - Trubin - Zalistra - Zesmi and Djaang

[FuxieDK]

Portuguese - Brazil UE (new language): Masc/Fem
Paladin: Paladino/Paladina
Warlock: Bruxo/Bruxa
Rogue: Ladino/Ladina
Druid: Druida/Druidesa
Shaman: Xamã/Xamã
Monk: Monge/Monja
Mage: Mago/Maga
Warrior: Guerreiro/Guerreira
Death Knight: Cavaleiro da Morte/Cavaleira da Morte
Hunter: Caçador/Caçadora
Priest: Sacerdote/Sacerdotisa

Alliance: Aliança
Human: Humano/Humana
Dwarf: Anão/Anã
Night Elf: Elfo Noturno/Elfa Noturna
Gnome: Gnomo/Gnomida
Draenei: Draenei/Draenaia
Worgen: Worgen/Worgenin

Horde: Horda
Orc: Orc/Orquisa
Undead: Morto-vivo/Morta-viva
Tauren: Tauren/Taurena
Troll: Troll/Trolesa
Blood Elf: Elfo Sangrento/Elfa Sangrenta
Goblin: Goblin/Goblina

Pandaren: Pandaren/Pandarena
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Doing census mainly on Draenor; Raluf - Nimsay - Lusmo - Quixx - Sosyan - Garthog - Trubin - Zalistra - Zesmi and Djaang

[FuxieDK]

Spanish - Latin America: Masc/Fem
Paladin: Paladín/Paladín
Warlock: Brujo/Bruja
Rogue: Pícaro/Pícara
Druid: Druida/Druida
Shaman: Chamán/Chamán
Monk: Monje/Monje
Mage: Mago/Maga
Warrior: Guerrero/Guerrera
Death Knight: Caballero de la Muerte/Caballero de la Muerte
Hunter: Cazador/Cazadora
Priest: Sacerdote/Sacerdotisa

Alliance: Alianza
Human: Humano/Humana
Dwarf: Enano/Enana
Night Elf: Elfo de la noche/Elfa de la Noche
Gnome: Gnomo/Gnoma
Draenei: Draenei/Draenei
Worgen: Huargen/Huargen

Horde: Horda
Orc: Orco/Orco
Undead: No-muerto/No-muerta
Tauren: Tauren/Tauren
Troll: Trol/Trol
Blood Elf: Elfo de sangre/Elfa de sangre
Goblin: Goblin/Goblin

Pandaren: Pandaren/Pandaren
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Doing census mainly on Draenor; Raluf - Nimsay - Lusmo - Quixx - Sosyan - Garthog - Trubin - Zalistra - Zesmi and Djaang

[FuxieDK]

I didn't find any difference in "Portuguese - Brazil" and "Portuguese - Brazil UE", and the same with "Spanish" and "Spanish - Latin", but they are listed as different language packs (and downloaded seperately), so I included them anyway..

Thise words should be the most important to get CensusPlus up and running smoothly....

Hopefully, Rollie will soon(tm) put it to good use...
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[bringoutyourdead]

Great.. much help there...

Pandaren being a word made up by Blizzard has no localizations.

Portuguese is an interesting language in that the two major users: Portugal and Brazil drifted apart over the centuries. In 1911 Portugal decided to create an official standard for the language... but Brazil wasn't involved and they created their own standard in 1938. As of 1990 all seven Portuguese speaking countries agreed to a single standard that was suppose to go into effect as of 2009. I wouldn't be surprised to find that Blizzards translations aren't fully correct or accepted by all the language users.

Spanish orthography on the other hand has been well established by the Spanish Royal Academy. There were some attempts by Latin Americans to create changes in the standard but those all failed.

[FuxieDK]

[bringoutyourdead]

blind as a bat

fixed that and a few other things in my copy of localization.

I've not seen any chatter from Brazil and no localization info corrections for Portuguese.

I didn't know that the Italian realms are open... or probably they aren't but the language pack is there.

[bringoutyourdead]

double blind as a bat

I've added the Portuguese info provided by MiX4RiA http://www.warcraftrealms.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4825

And I've started the Italian section with what you provided + google translate.

[Kruegar]

[FuxieDK]